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	<title>Comments on: Mobile Messaging: Must Move Traffic off SMS</title>
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		<title>by: wyuwp</title>
		<link>http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2006/11/04/mobile-messaging-must-move-traffic-off-sms/#comment-970</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And yes another thought would be that CTU offers still expect telcos to invest in their current costly core GSM equipment. So even if they offer both bundled data messaging service and CTU messaging at the same price, they stand to make more money with bundled data messaging because of the lower cost of infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes another thought would be that CTU offers still expect telcos to invest in their current costly core GSM equipment. So even if they offer both bundled data messaging service and CTU messaging at the same price, they stand to make more money with bundled data messaging because of the lower cost of infrastructure.
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		<title>by: wyuwp</title>
		<link>http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2006/11/04/mobile-messaging-must-move-traffic-off-sms/#comment-954</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Saichi, True CTU handsets are typically low end. It would be hard to put applications on those handsets. Hehe.

Roger, i thought SMS* was the same as SMS. ops! Hehehe. But, in anycase, an application still has to be installed. That is still a barrier to entry since most of the population are not capable of installing software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saichi, True CTU handsets are typically low end. It would be hard to put applications on those handsets. Hehe.</p>
<p>Roger, i thought SMS* was the same as SMS. ops! Hehehe. But, in anycase, an application still has to be installed. That is still a barrier to entry since most of the population are not capable of installing software.
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		<title>by: Roger D</title>
		<link>http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2006/11/04/mobile-messaging-must-move-traffic-off-sms/#comment-953</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>well, what we found out that if the subscribers wanted to use an application, they will look/search and download it into their mobile phone. The same findings by mobile operators in other regions.

SMS* didn't use SMS, but uses the native Inbox of the SMS. You can send default SMS if the recipient doesn't have SMS* installed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, what we found out that if the subscribers wanted to use an application, they will look/search and download it into their mobile phone. The same findings by mobile operators in other regions.</p>
<p>SMS* didn&#8217;t use SMS, but uses the native Inbox of the SMS. You can send default SMS if the recipient doesn&#8217;t have SMS* installed.
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		<title>by: Saichi</title>
		<link>http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2006/11/04/mobile-messaging-must-move-traffic-off-sms/#comment-943</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You are right, technically this isn't too difficult.  However, commercially, you will encounter problems considering the local CTU (Call and Text Unlimited) offered by telcos that offers the same service at a fixed price as well.  As you mentioned, there is also the issue of usability, with CTU there is little to no change when it comes to UI.  However, I do acknowledge that CTU only works if sender and receiver are on the same network and to me this is the only weakness that these applications can exploit locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, technically this isn&#8217;t too difficult.  However, commercially, you will encounter problems considering the local CTU (Call and Text Unlimited) offered by telcos that offers the same service at a fixed price as well.  As you mentioned, there is also the issue of usability, with CTU there is little to no change when it comes to UI.  However, I do acknowledge that CTU only works if sender and receiver are on the same network and to me this is the only weakness that these applications can exploit locally.
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		<title>by: wyuwp</title>
		<link>http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2006/11/04/mobile-messaging-must-move-traffic-off-sms/#comment-941</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yup obvious solution would be to use XMPP on both ends. The issue here is that people just don't like installing an additional client on their phones. Besides, most people are not capable of this.

Did you use SMS? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of an SMS-bypass ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup obvious solution would be to use XMPP on both ends. The issue here is that people just don&#8217;t like installing an additional client on their phones. Besides, most people are not capable of this.</p>
<p>Did you use SMS? Doesn&#8217;t that defeat the purpose of an SMS-bypass <img src='http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Roger D</title>
		<link>http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2006/11/04/mobile-messaging-must-move-traffic-off-sms/#comment-940</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Hip,

It's not difficult to implement this, basically we already did (SMS*). :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hip,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not difficult to implement this, basically we already did (SMS*). <img src='http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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